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israel is going to react to that. i think you'll see a very intense demonstration between out of pockets to some degree, don't they? >> yeah, but that's a big risk. so the big driver of the israeli operation right now is the long-range rockets that were allegedly supplied by iran and which hamas has been using to target major urban centers in israel like tel aviv, like jerusalem. tel aviv has been the red line for israel, and as long as hamas has been in possession of these rockets and can maintain that threat against israeli population centers, israel can't afford to sit back. so the air strikes, yes, they have been achieving some success, but hamas has still been lobbying those rockets over. we saw that today with strikes in jerusalem as well as in tel aviv, so it really comes down to that intelligence question. how many rockets does hamas have in its possession, and if hamas is able to get out of this with some rockets, that's a huge symbolic victory for them. >> is this something we've seen before, or is this colo
israel is going to react to that. i think you'll see a very intense demonstration between out of pockets to some degree, don't they? >> yeah, but that's a big risk. so the big driver of the israeli operation right now is the long-range rockets that were allegedly supplied by iran and which hamas has been using to target major urban centers in israel like tel aviv, like jerusalem. tel aviv has been the red line for israel, and as long as hamas has been in possession of these rockets and...
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only a 48-hour truce between israel and hamas. so there's a positive moves ahead going on trying to end this diplomatically. but not everybody is betting on that right now, alex. >> sounds like all the pieces are on the chess board for sure. thank you very much, martin fletcher. >> let's get some perspective on this crisis. joining me is military analyst general mccaffrey. is there a danger this could turn into a larger middle east war? >> no question. i think we're one step shorter of an all out ground operation in the gaza. i don't see how the israelis could top rate continued threat to huge parts of the civilian population. and then in the background, of course, we have the iranians and hezbollah on the lebanese southern border. the israelis are quite vulnerable to these rocket strikes. fit went to all-out war there would be significant israeli losses. >> all right, general, would the u.s. get involved militarily if this does escalate? >> i don't think so. i think the iranians would be loathe to actually start firing their long
only a 48-hour truce between israel and hamas. so there's a positive moves ahead going on trying to end this diplomatically. but not everybody is betting on that right now, alex. >> sounds like all the pieces are on the chess board for sure. thank you very much, martin fletcher. >> let's get some perspective on this crisis. joining me is military analyst general mccaffrey. is there a danger this could turn into a larger middle east war? >> no question. i think we're one step...
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israel. we are on both sides of the border in the line of fire. our sara sidner is in gaza city. let's go to southern israel where israeli tanks are on the move. the israeli defense forces say at least 30,000 troops are being mobilized along the border with gaza and thousands more are getting their marching orders. as we said, cnn's frederick is live along the border. you have been on the front lines there. what type of military activity are you seeing? >> hi, randi. a lot of military activity going on here between the border area between gaza and israel. we just had armored vehicles come through here and moving in closer to the border. of course, a lot of people believe that israelis must launch a ground offensive into gaza quite soon and we are seeing a lot of troops really near the border of our area and the israelis have also called in tens of thousands of reservists and reporting for duty right now. when you go along the border area you see units that are hiding behind tree lines and the
israel. we are on both sides of the border in the line of fire. our sara sidner is in gaza city. let's go to southern israel where israeli tanks are on the move. the israeli defense forces say at least 30,000 troops are being mobilized along the border with gaza and thousands more are getting their marching orders. as we said, cnn's frederick is live along the border. you have been on the front lines there. what type of military activity are you seeing? >> hi, randi. a lot of military...
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. >> when the united states has glommed on to israel or israel has glommed on to the united states as an ali. in that time line is that israel in going afterra jabari when in breaking a ceasefire. there was a ceasefire in place israel broke. i think if -- it has nothing to do with the u.s. elections and a romney losing and saying we are not going to be part of the u.s. and making your question more ironic. we are israel and will do what we want to do even though our candidate lost and we need their money for the iron dome project. >> we gave them iron dome before the elections and there is no instigation on one side before the u.s. elections. israeli right wing is in charge. if you don't have war you do a peace deal, the right wing loses its reason for existing to some degree. hamas while they are the more militant folks have an incentive to create war. do we have a situation here where we have put the wrong people in charge or incent vise for more war? >> it's not farra fetched when you consider the israeli elections take place of january 2013 and this is netanyahu's way of flexing h
. >> when the united states has glommed on to israel or israel has glommed on to the united states as an ali. in that time line is that israel in going afterra jabari when in breaking a ceasefire. there was a ceasefire in place israel broke. i think if -- it has nothing to do with the u.s. elections and a romney losing and saying we are not going to be part of the u.s. and making your question more ironic. we are israel and will do what we want to do even though our candidate lost and we...
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civilians are bearing the brunt as israel continues to pound gaza with a ground invasion being prepared despite international efforts to mediate peace. comes of television maintained it's not targeting civilians and its bombing campaign is highly precise. the rebranded syrian opposition gets a royal welcome in from since the e.u. is expected to discuss whether to open the send weapons to rebels. and the u.k. government's budget handling is on the far after it's revealed the billions of pounds spent on bank bailouts may all go down the drain. from the new center here in moscow this is all to with international news and comment twenty four hours a day the girls and death toll from the escalating israeli bombardment has risen to at least forty five after four days of hostilities half of those killed are said to be civilians and as israel prepares a ground invasion the militants are hitting back with rocket attacks. have the latest now from tel aviv paula two more civilian deaths reported in the last hour how does tell of explain the mounting collateral damage. well certainly what we are wi
civilians are bearing the brunt as israel continues to pound gaza with a ground invasion being prepared despite international efforts to mediate peace. comes of television maintained it's not targeting civilians and its bombing campaign is highly precise. the rebranded syrian opposition gets a royal welcome in from since the e.u. is expected to discuss whether to open the send weapons to rebels. and the u.k. government's budget handling is on the far after it's revealed the billions of pounds...
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attacks on israel. in gaza, people are fearing for their lives as we speak. israeli war planes have been relentless in their attacks on targets. they are hunting rocket launchers. but dozens of civilians have been killed as a result. these are some live pictures of gaza and gaza city. the latest round of this conflict started wednesday, and there really is no end in sight at this point as we continue to watch the explosions in and around gaza city. nick valencia is live at our middle east news desk. he's watching everything unfold. nick, what's the latest? >> we've been seeing a lot of video of these air raids. we want to take you on to the ground. here's one of our middle eastern correspondents. this is a special desk we created today at the hub of our international news gathering situation. tell me about what you're monoerring. what's going on here? >> this is a hamas funded tv based in gaza, but they are carrying live pictures, where there's a huge rally conducted by the muslim brotherhood. we know h
attacks on israel. in gaza, people are fearing for their lives as we speak. israeli war planes have been relentless in their attacks on targets. they are hunting rocket launchers. but dozens of civilians have been killed as a result. these are some live pictures of gaza and gaza city. the latest round of this conflict started wednesday, and there really is no end in sight at this point as we continue to watch the explosions in and around gaza city. nick valencia is live at our middle east news...
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hamas refuses to recognize israel. i asked from the peculiars lo which is how much control do they have? i have a lot of sympathy from the poor people of gaza and not hamas who are blasting rockets and the main booed of 1.5 million severely oppressed people living with no hope, no jobs. nothing. what is the way to try and get a better life for them? who can bring that to them? >> i agree with allen that israel certainly has a right to self-defense. a, i would contest the idea that this is an effective way to do that. no israelis have been killed by this shower of hamas rockets which is absolutely unacceptable and deplorable and nobody had been killed until this action. >> you can't wait until it hits a school bus. you have to stop the risk when you have hundreds and hundreds of rockets. you can't wait until it hits a school. >> now israelis have died, and i also, you know, think that at the end of the day this will be an ineffective way of advancing israeli security. i do think that engaging with the palestinian author
hamas refuses to recognize israel. i asked from the peculiars lo which is how much control do they have? i have a lot of sympathy from the poor people of gaza and not hamas who are blasting rockets and the main booed of 1.5 million severely oppressed people living with no hope, no jobs. nothing. what is the way to try and get a better life for them? who can bring that to them? >> i agree with allen that israel certainly has a right to self-defense. a, i would contest the idea that this is...
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israel steps up its bombing of gaza with the death toll now reaching forty five as a ground invasion is being prepared despite international a force to mediate peace. this comes as television maintains it's not targeting civilians and its bombing campaign is highly for signs. rebranded syrian opposition gets a royal welcome in france as the e.u. is expected to discuss whether to openly send weapons to the rebels. and to the u.k. government's budget handling is under fire after it's revealed dead billions of pounds spent on bank bailouts they all go down the drain. it's chewy and here in moscow you're live with are two you with me to say kycia have you with us the gazan death toll from the escalating is wryly bombardment has risen to at least forty five of those killed us said to be civilians and as israel prepares a ground invasion the militants i had to back with the rocket attacks meanwhile the arab league has agreed at an emergency meeting to send a delegation to gaza and assess the situation on the ground archies policy has the latest now from tel aviv. what we are witnessing is
israel steps up its bombing of gaza with the death toll now reaching forty five as a ground invasion is being prepared despite international a force to mediate peace. this comes as television maintains it's not targeting civilians and its bombing campaign is highly for signs. rebranded syrian opposition gets a royal welcome in france as the e.u. is expected to discuss whether to openly send weapons to the rebels. and to the u.k. government's budget handling is under fire after it's revealed...
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remains firm in its backing of israel president obama spoke to israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu on friday to read his support and go bad. news junkie post says the consequences of further escalation in the conflict and not being properly considered. is well as the sanction of. just. the intention of breaking the back of his boat i personally think that even with a bearing of someone approach on the ocean which would normally be. all they are doing any sort of thing very very stupid because if there's one thing that you need for the muslim world and he's been seen not only the most frequently but actually all over the world including in the us is that not just into something that is not very well thought out because what could very easily. is not. on these well coming from a leader not also some annoy us enjoy all the one where you have about two million but not as well as grow up some movement of the egyptian army that is very substantial so israel is basically applying was fire. on the later developments in gaza and israel. britain is considering following france and turkey in
remains firm in its backing of israel president obama spoke to israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu on friday to read his support and go bad. news junkie post says the consequences of further escalation in the conflict and not being properly considered. is well as the sanction of. just. the intention of breaking the back of his boat i personally think that even with a bearing of someone approach on the ocean which would normally be. all they are doing any sort of thing very very stupid...
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this is all see coming to you live from moscow hello and welcome to the program israel stepping up with assault on gaza time getting over one hundred fifty sites other nights including the has court has a hamas meanwhile israeli troops are amassing on the gaza border with a number of reservists all stunned by at around seventy five thousand also his policies following the developing conflict. when the air force has hit the headquarters of the hamas compound in gaza city in some separate strikes with i am an eyewitness is reporting that there is extensive damage to the building now they were a number of explosions that will heard in and around gaza city on saturday this comes after the israeli air force struck a number of government buildings on friday including the interior ministry a number of police compounds several smuggling tunnels as well as a three story building a mass has issued a statement in which it says that it will stand by its people so we are witnessing an escalation in tensions the muscles also said that in no way will it stick down now the israeli air force has said th
this is all see coming to you live from moscow hello and welcome to the program israel stepping up with assault on gaza time getting over one hundred fifty sites other nights including the has court has a hamas meanwhile israeli troops are amassing on the gaza border with a number of reservists all stunned by at around seventy five thousand also his policies following the developing conflict. when the air force has hit the headquarters of the hamas compound in gaza city in some separate strikes...
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is substantial so israel is basically applying we. will keep updating you on the latest developments in gaza and israel to stay with us. britain is considering following france and recognizing beneath you are an opposition group to president assad. that shortly western attempts to support the rebels will only lead to war torn country deep into chaos that's coming your way out of the shop. if you're passing through russia's to be a region you really can walk on the wild side thousands of kilometers of unspoilt countryside make up an area where it's still possible to live off the land such spectacular scenery makes it a paradise for fisherman and provides a business opportunity for hunters there are defined hunting seasons in russia but lax enforcement means many animals are killed out of the allotted times which can leave young animals orphaned and unable to survive the heart of just us forest provides a sanctuary for the most famous beast in russia it's home to a group who rescue often bear cubs and raise them when they're old enough
is substantial so israel is basically applying we. will keep updating you on the latest developments in gaza and israel to stay with us. britain is considering following france and recognizing beneath you are an opposition group to president assad. that shortly western attempts to support the rebels will only lead to war torn country deep into chaos that's coming your way out of the shop. if you're passing through russia's to be a region you really can walk on the wild side thousands of...
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and we're looking at a situation that the whole south of israel is in a state of high alert with some one million people who have been ordered to stay in bomb shelters the point that needs to be made that when we talk about how much we are talking about and look to government that was chosen by the people of gaza back in two thousand and six we're not talking about random fighters as i say these are legitimate representatives of the people be egyptian prime minister yesterday friday was a visit to gaza to assess the situation and there was a cease fire that was called for which israel and major broke and this is despite the fact that the israeli army denies this however we have heard there were at least some two people who were killed in gaza there are some seventy five thousand reservists who have been called out these troops are now amassing along the israel gaza border and speaking to his way he's here inside as well as outside the country you have israelis who are returning as they are called up for duty very much. that we are going to look at an offensive that will happen remarka
and we're looking at a situation that the whole south of israel is in a state of high alert with some one million people who have been ordered to stay in bomb shelters the point that needs to be made that when we talk about how much we are talking about and look to government that was chosen by the people of gaza back in two thousand and six we're not talking about random fighters as i say these are legitimate representatives of the people be egyptian prime minister yesterday friday was a visit...
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israel's iron dome. since the start of israel's operation of civil defense, over 400 rockets, mortars and missiles hit hundreds more have been intercepted as well. how does the iron dome missile defense work? for one, it's able to calculate each rocket's trajectory and only intercept those that will hit a target and this is done through a vast array of sensors located around the country which determine whether a rocket is expected to land into a populated area or not. >> jamie: meanwhile, the white house today is reiterating that israel, quote, as a right to defend itself defense any attacks and the top two aides of president obama or top aide i should say, also telling reporters that the u.s. and israel both want an end to the rocket fire. that's coming from the gaza strip. president obama has also spoken to the leaders of egypt and turkey, and the administration feels they have the ability to encourage hamas to end this violence. >> and while this situation in the mideast develops, president obama is o
israel's iron dome. since the start of israel's operation of civil defense, over 400 rockets, mortars and missiles hit hundreds more have been intercepted as well. how does the iron dome missile defense work? for one, it's able to calculate each rocket's trajectory and only intercept those that will hit a target and this is done through a vast array of sensors located around the country which determine whether a rocket is expected to land into a populated area or not. >> jamie: meanwhile,...
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it's a bit into bearing the brunt as israel continues to with a ground invasion being prepared despite international efforts to mediate. television claims it's not targeting civilians and collateral damage is minimal. the rebranded syrian opposition gets a royal welcome in france expected to discuss whether to openly send weapons to rebels. and u.k. government budget handling is on the far after it's revealed the billions of pounds spent on bank bailouts may all go down the drain. for money center here in moscow this is r.t. with international news and comment twenty four hours a day israel is intensifying its guards on the fourth of hostilities and stepping up preparations for a ground invasion militants are hitting back another iranian made rocket followed by hamas has been shot down over tel aviv meanwhile israeli precision strikes are leading to a rising number of civilian deaths international efforts to mediate peace are also being stepped up the arab league is now pledging to stand with the palestinians and says israel is committing war crimes. the israeli defense forces have sea
it's a bit into bearing the brunt as israel continues to with a ground invasion being prepared despite international efforts to mediate. television claims it's not targeting civilians and collateral damage is minimal. the rebranded syrian opposition gets a royal welcome in france expected to discuss whether to openly send weapons to rebels. and u.k. government budget handling is on the far after it's revealed the billions of pounds spent on bank bailouts may all go down the drain. for money...
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>> well, i think the united states has to urge israel and has to be with israel 100% in protecting israel's security. you're absolutely right. these are terrorists. you've got rockets coming into jerusalem which even saddam hussein, during the persian gulf war, the war in 1991, even he did not send missiles, sent rockets into jerusalem. this situation is dire and i'm sure like you, i have friends, family, loved ones whose kids are in the military, families live there. you can't live with rockets pouring in. so i do think our role has to be to try to secure peace and security for israel, whether through negotiations or through support of israel's right to defend itself. >> rick: that's been the message from the white house is that the administration, the united states believes that israel has every right to defend itself. we heard today from the president's deputy national security advisor that the president and benjamin netanyahu have been in touch every single day since this conflict began. what more should or could the u.s. be doing? >> well, you know, there is this term, light footprint.
>> well, i think the united states has to urge israel and has to be with israel 100% in protecting israel's security. you're absolutely right. these are terrorists. you've got rockets coming into jerusalem which even saddam hussein, during the persian gulf war, the war in 1991, even he did not send missiles, sent rockets into jerusalem. this situation is dire and i'm sure like you, i have friends, family, loved ones whose kids are in the military, families live there. you can't live with...
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remains firm in the backing of israel president obama spoke to israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu on friday to reiterate his support. an editor of a news junkie post says the consequences of further escalation in the conflict are not being properly considered. is well as the in tangshan of wiking the back of the hamas just like they have the intention of making the bug has a boat i personally think that even with a betting someone a pro it's only a show which would normally be as well all they are doing something very very stupid because if there's one thing that you need the muslim world and we've been seeing not only in mostly actually all over the world including in the us is or not but this to me is something that is not really well thought out because what could very easily happen is not. on these whale coming on leave are not also some annoy us enjoy all the one where you have about two million but is not as well as there are some movement of the egyptian army that is very substantial so easy way out is basically applying was fire. we're now about to a live pictures for you
remains firm in the backing of israel president obama spoke to israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu on friday to reiterate his support. an editor of a news junkie post says the consequences of further escalation in the conflict are not being properly considered. is well as the in tangshan of wiking the back of the hamas just like they have the intention of making the bug has a boat i personally think that even with a betting someone a pro it's only a show which would normally be as well...
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martin fletcher, on the israel-gaza border. nbc news >> reporter: i'm richard engel in gaza, this palestinian enclave was under attack today. the interior ministry took hits, as did the rocket launchers, so far israel has been using surgical strikes they targeted individuals. a hamas field commander was killed today. but civilians are dying, too. why is this happening now? hamas is challenging israel with rockets, confident it has real support in the region after the arab spring revolutions. visiting gaza today, the egyptian prime minister, a show of support that would never have happened under mubarak, egypt, the revolution will spare no effort to stop this aggression, he said. he held a child, killed, according to the officials, moments earlier. egypt must balance its support of hamas with need for good relations from washington, and billions in aid. like egypt, they are from the muslim brotherhood, they are trying to channel the power that toppled arab strongmen to topple israel. there were demonstrations today supporting ga
martin fletcher, on the israel-gaza border. nbc news >> reporter: i'm richard engel in gaza, this palestinian enclave was under attack today. the interior ministry took hits, as did the rocket launchers, so far israel has been using surgical strikes they targeted individuals. a hamas field commander was killed today. but civilians are dying, too. why is this happening now? hamas is challenging israel with rockets, confident it has real support in the region after the arab spring...
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israel. msnbc's martin fletcher is live in tel-aviv now. has night time offered any relief from the rocket attacks? >> reporter: actually, it hasn't. the rocket attacks continue. an israel town was hit about a half hour ago but the pace has quieted in the central part of israel. all eyes still on this one question whether or not israel will launch a ground invasion into gaza. reserve troops are still being called up, still moving to the units, joining the regular army, poised on them of gaza for the order that they don't know if it will come. meanwhile, there's very strong negotiations going on especially among arab countries with hamas and trying to get hamas to agree to a truce with israel and get israel to agree, too. israel prime minister talking to the american president talking to the egyptian president, who's talking to hamas. a possibility of a truce midweek, which could head off -- would head off an israel invasion in the short term anyway. >>> in 2009 we saw 200 of these rocket atta
israel. msnbc's martin fletcher is live in tel-aviv now. has night time offered any relief from the rocket attacks? >> reporter: actually, it hasn't. the rocket attacks continue. an israel town was hit about a half hour ago but the pace has quieted in the central part of israel. all eyes still on this one question whether or not israel will launch a ground invasion into gaza. reserve troops are still being called up, still moving to the units, joining the regular army, poised on them of...
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the president says he supports israel and will always support israel. israel is under fire, rockets are pounding their cities, should the president cut off aid to israel -- cut off aid to egypt? >> the u.s. wants to see stability in the region. president and they are not indulging israel in the last few hours. but i think it's about time to tell the egyptians to make a stand. you want to get money from the u.s., you have to stop with the violence, have you to stop indulging hamas, you know, sean, after the u.s. killed osama bin laden, hamas was the only organization that condemned the u.s., you cannot allow yourself with the hamas in one hand and the other, come to the u.s. and get u.s. dollars. >> sean: let me ask you this, i have been saying, i believe we are going to look back in history and refer to this as the time of the radical islamist. we know what happened with the arab spring in egypt. muslim brotherhood's in charge. we see what happened in libya. we don't know what will unfold in syria, on top of that is correct i would argue that jordan has
the president says he supports israel and will always support israel. israel is under fire, rockets are pounding their cities, should the president cut off aid to israel -- cut off aid to egypt? >> the u.s. wants to see stability in the region. president and they are not indulging israel in the last few hours. but i think it's about time to tell the egyptians to make a stand. you want to get money from the u.s., you have to stop with the violence, have you to stop indulging hamas, you...
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israel and hamas, exchanging fire, and poised to invade. tonight we're on the ground in israel and gaza poised t >>> on the hill, david petraeus under heavy cover tells congres about the attack in benghazi, what he knew, when he knew it and why the u.s. first told the world what it did. >>> and ays since the devastation on the east coast. scenes of utter devastation we have not seen until now coast. >>> and it >>> and it is the end of the line for a guilty pleasure in america. but how did it come to this? nightly news begins now. >>> good evening, it worries them enough that israel's tanks appear ready to roll into gaza, and the skies have been raining rockets there for several days. perhaps the larger worry, both sides in this escalating fight have powerful friends that are getting involved and taking sides, like egypt, friend of hamas, and the united states, which tonight is sending naval vessels offshore in case americans need to get out of there. it has been another day of explosions and air raid sirens. it remains a situation on the ed
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i'm jamie colby, the stop story we're watching right now is this new video from tel aviv, israel, the city is under attack. take a look at this, the israel iron dome rocket defense system has shot down a rocket, the third straight day that gaza militants have fired these rockets at tel aviv. folks ran for cover and cheered as the interception took place and israel putting troops in armored vehicles on the gaza border at this hour raising concerns of ground assaults on gaza may be imminent. we're tracking the developments for you. a horrifying crash between a train and school bus garien kindergarteners, reports nearly 50 people killed. happened in southern egypt and appeared the railroad crossing wasn't closed as the train sped toward the bus and distraught family members at the scene are searching for loved ones. i'll send you back now to cavuto on business. i'm jamie colby. keep it on fox. >> neil: do you think the victims of sandy are fuming at fema now, with the cash dwindling they're prepared to ask for at taxpayer funded bailout and reports that fema and red cross workers in new
i'm jamie colby, the stop story we're watching right now is this new video from tel aviv, israel, the city is under attack. take a look at this, the israel iron dome rocket defense system has shot down a rocket, the third straight day that gaza militants have fired these rockets at tel aviv. folks ran for cover and cheered as the interception took place and israel putting troops in armored vehicles on the gaza border at this hour raising concerns of ground assaults on gaza may be imminent....
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as long as the threat exists they will fight israel. they are committed to an anti-sellity-- anti-semitic of killing juice jews, it's in their charter n their document t is what they are openly saying. they are not leave israel alone regard will of what is happening. so once israel withdraws totally from the gaza strip they started shelling israeli cities. and i also agree that whatever israel can achieve, and it can achieve quite a lot. it achieved four years of tranquillity, relative tranquillity. but only can achieve relative tranquillity for a while and then it will come up again because the hamas is committed to the destruction of the state of israel. >> brown: just a brief last word here. but you're saying it require its american leadership but do you-- do you see -- >> i don't see it happening, that's why. >> brown: it can't happen. >> no-- well, no you cannot say there is no american leadership, otherwise are you leaving the sides to their own devices and there will be more conflict and tragedies between palestinians and israeli
as long as the threat exists they will fight israel. they are committed to an anti-sellity-- anti-semitic of killing juice jews, it's in their charter n their document t is what they are openly saying. they are not leave israel alone regard will of what is happening. so once israel withdraws totally from the gaza strip they started shelling israeli cities. and i also agree that whatever israel can achieve, and it can achieve quite a lot. it achieved four years of tranquillity, relative...